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Public deliberation: the Left should learn to trust Americans
June 28th, 2010

Archon Fung is the Ford Foundation Professor of Democracy and Citizenship at the John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University. He serves on the advisory board of AmericaSpeaks and is helping to conduct research project examining the “Our Budget, Our Economy” event. Cross-posted from Huffington Post.

Last Saturday, some 4,000 Americans participated in a national conversation about this country’s growing deficit problem. In ten years, according to some estimates, our national debt is projected to grow to 90 percent of our Gross Domestic Product. Participants in Saturday’s “Our Budget, Our Economy” event — which took place in more than 19 cities across the country — deliberated with one another to articulate the values and policies that should guide efforts to reduce the coming burden on our economy and our children. AmericaSpeaks, the group that organized the event, will present these findings to President Obama’s National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.

It was distressing that many left intellectuals leveled withering scorn at this event because they viewed it as a vast right-wing conspiracy to manufacture public consent to slash public programs. In the Huffington Post, for example, my one-time co-author Dean Baker wrote that the meeting’s organization — its agenda and materials — “virtually guarantees that most of the participants will opt for big cuts to Social Security and Medicare. The results of this song-and-dance will the be presented to President Obama’s… commission which will use it as further ammunition… to gut these programs.” Progressive commentator Richard Eskow explained, also in Huffington Post, that “AmericaSpeaks is part of a well-coordinated media campaign” aimed at “slashing government programs” that will benefit “anybody who makes a lot of money and doesn’t want to pay taxes.” In CounterPunch, a left newsletter edited by Alexander Cockburn, John Halle called for me, as a self-respecting progressive, to resign from AmericaSpeaks‘ advisory board rather than lend comfort to the “infernal propaganda machine” of which the “Our Budget, Our Economy” discussion is part.

If Saturday’s event was part of some conservative scheme, it was more incompetent than Michael Brown’s efforts in post-Katrina New Orleans. The event resulted in policy preferences that might not be that far from those of Dean Baker and Richard Eskow. By the end of their deliberations, it was clear that most participants wanted to reduce the deficit primarily by raising taxes and cutting defense, not by slashing Social Security, Medicaid, or Medicare. The most popular single measure was to raise the cap on earnings that are taxable for social security (85% in favor). Currently, only the first $106,800 dollars of an individual’s income is subject to Social Security taxation. Those with higher incomes obviously benefit from this policy. Many were willing to share the burden of deficit reduction — 67% favored raising the payroll tax by 1 or 2 percentage points. 68% favored raising a 5% extra tax on millionaires and 59% favored raising the corporate income tax. When asked about new taxes, 64% favored a carbon tax (a strike in favor of environmental and intergenerational justice) and 61% favor a security transaction tax (a favorite proposal of left economists and much loathed by hedge fund managers). 69% favored cutting defense spending by 10% or 15%. 65% wanted to cut health care by 5% or not at all and 58% wanted a 5% or lower cut in the federal government’s discretionary programs.

How do we explain this discrepancy? In high school science class, I learned that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Perhaps “Our Budget, Our Economy” was not a right wing conspiracy that went disastrously awry — as Roger Hickey and Robert Kuttner (again, writing in the Huffington Post) think. Perhaps it really was what its organizers claimed it to be: an attempt to bring a representative cross-section of Americans together to discuss America’s fiscal problems in an even-handed and reasonable way and then to transmit the results of their discussions to policy-makers.

Defensiveness and fearfulness led left observers to reject this simpler (and correct) explanation, to read the evidence in a highly selective way, to lash out at those whom they should have
supported, and so to reinforce the combative character of a political discourse that now sickens many Americans.

Here are some inconvenient facts. While it is true that the conservative Peter G. Peterson Foundation provided substantial support for “Our Budget, Our Economy,” the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur and W.K. Kellogg Foundations — certainly not right-wing bankrolls — also supplied major funding. Second, the event’s National Advisory Committee — which vetted the agenda and briefing materials — included not just people from conservative organizations such as the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute, but also left think tanks such as the Economic Policy Institute, Center for American Progress, Urban Institute, and Brookings. The view that “Our Budget, Our Economy” was a right-wing machination is simply not based in reality.

Many progressives are much more concerned with substantive justice than with deepening democracy. Convening thousands to talk about the fiscal future seems at best a waste of money and energy (why not just lobby for your favored policy instead?). Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote that democratic debate is pointless “if you have no doubt of your premises or your power and want a certain result with all your heart.”1 That certainty that led many intellectuals and interest groups of both the left and the right to condemn “Our Budget, Our Economy” in the weeks before the event.

If you hold strong policy commitments, democratic deliberations such as last Saturday’s event are risky. In all probability, those who deliberate will not arrive at conclusions that match your
own. What should make this risk tolerable for progressives — and other Americans — is that we are not only committed to particular policies and values like social justice, but also to democracy itself as an independent value.

Those who doubt that value should have seen Americans from all walks of life working hard to understand the nuances of the federal budget and striving to accommodate each other’s views
last Saturday. It was moving to witness these conversations cross the usual boundaries of race, class, age, and political orientation that segregate us from one another in our neighborhoods and workplaces. It was challenging for them because they discussed a vast amount of material in a small amount of time, and even then the options were more limited than many would have liked. Although the individuals who participated in Saturday’s event were very diverse in ethnicity, income, and politics, they almost all (88%) said that they were either “dissatisfied” or “very dissatisfied” with the tone of political dialogue in the America. For no money, these Americans devoted an entire day to improving that dialogue by understanding and deliberating about the federal budget.

At the very minimum, progressives should seek to understand efforts to create public deliberation before trashing those efforts as worthless, dangerous, or impossible. More ambitiously, we should spend some portion of our political energy improving the quality of democracy — perhaps by convening informed and reflective deliberations among ordinary citizens. When we do so, they will sometimes and in some measure — but not always — arrive at conclusions we favor.

Our democracy would benefit from the proliferation of spaces in which ordinary Americans deliberate with each other about important public issues in an informed, non-partisan way. These practices might bring insights about values and priorities that elude the grasp of the political class. If government responded to these popular judgments, citizens might feel less alienated about government and come to regard it as more legitimate. Shifting the balance of political discourse away from interest groups, partisan leaders and their contributors toward ordinary citizens might result in policies that are determined less by the priorities of money and more by the interests of people.

Indeed, despite expectations to the contrary, that is one way to understand what happened on Saturday. If participants had arrived at dramatically different conclusions, I would have been
compelled to reflect upon my own commitments because I trust the wisdom and values of my fellow Americans. Deliberation and democracy require no less.

  • Will

    Professor Fung,

    I agree with you that we need to "deepen" our democracy, and not just focus on the ends, but also focus on the means - what some might call the process. So, like you, I think that procedural justice matters, and that we need to learn how to engage with one another in constructive dialogue in order to determine the best collective decisions. However, I think from a procedural perspective, the AmericaSpeaks event was very problematic. First, we the participants were instructed to consider a set of budget options that was not sufficiently diverse These options were selected and filtered by AmericaSpeaks and the established thinktanks they partnered with; they were not proposed or selected by the participants themselves. The range of options were not just "more limited than many would have liked"; the options lacked sufficient intellectual content to seriously engage the participants. If people have strong preferences for Single Payer Healthcare or the Flat Tax, and if these are not on the table for serious discussion, then participants are likely to leave the dialogue without a deeper understanding of their original positions. Participants must consider a diverse array of options, including those they currently prefer, in order to understand the relative strengths and weaknesses of each option.

    The second major problem with AmericaSpeak's process, as you mentioned, is the lack of time to discuss the options. Participants were rushed through a complex menu of options with very little time to make informed decisions about their preferences. This lack of time to deliberate is not just "challenging" for the participants, but a serious challenge to the validity of the data gathered. In my group, we had very little time to evaluate the pros and cons of the options.

    The third major procedural problem with the AmericaSpeaks event was how the data was aggregated and summarized. Each group selected a participant to serve as a recorder. The recorder was supposed to write in the responses for the group on a computer. While most recorders probably tried their best to fairly reflect group opinions, it is not clear that most recorders successfully summarized the views of all the group members. Important details were lost in translation (this error was magnified by the lack of time to do data entry). Also, while the recorder was reflecting other views, they had less time to offer their own views, views which may have substantially changed the discussion. It's important that the recorder have enough time to fully participate in registering their preferences as well. Moreover, it is not clear that the so called "Theme Team", a group of people who are supposed to somehow systematically sift through the data and report it in real time, actually identified the most salient themes in the data. What rules did people follow in summarizing the data they received from the groups? Who participated in the theme team? Were they participants or the organizers? Did the computer help them identify patterns or did they wing it? How was selection bias controlled for in the theme team's analysis? These are all serious worries for the validity of the findings.

    I consider myself a progressive that cares deeply about how democracy proceeds. For me, the goal of the event was not just to practice talking to diverse people, but to practice informed collective decision-making. In particular, people need an opportunity to decide what policies they supported and why. To this end, it's important that participants critically challenge the methods of data gathering and summarization that AmericaSpeaks used. It's important to identify institutional biases that influence what gets on the menu and what does not. It's important to distinguish between non-partisanship and bi-partisanship. To say that AmericaSpeaks is non-partisan is somewhat suspect; it might be more accurate to say that they were bi-partisan. There were no independent or third party candidates speaking at my meeting - only Democrats and Republicans. It's important to be critical of those who intend to represent you. In the end, AmericaSpeaks plans to try to use the findings of this event to influence policy outcomes. The question remains: Do the procedures by which AmericaSpeaks gathered our collective preferences suffice to accurately represent us?

  • Ejdodson

    My observation as a student of history is that neither self-described conservatives nor progressives have embraced principles consistent the pursuit of true liberty, equality of opportunity, or just governance. We live under a set of laws that from inception embraced deeply-entrenched privileges, the preservation of which set the mistermed "conservative" defense of property in all its forms, including claims of ownership to other people and the the privatization of the commons. Progressives helped to mitigate some of the worst abuses against our rights as human beings (notably, after slavery was brought to an end by violent warfare) but have advanced different forms of privilege under law.

    We have this naive sense that our system of government in the United States broke from the hierarchical traditions of the Old World. Even a cursory examination reveals this not to be the case. The political machinery of this nation has always been under the influence of and essential domination by propertied and financial wealth. The Old World protections of landed property -- primogeniture and entail -- have been replicated here by the virtual elimination of taxation on the inheritance of grossly-large individual estates.

    As the philosopher Mortimer J. Adler (who described himself as a democratic-socialist) wrote, we mistakenly call for freedom, when what we ought to call for is liberty. He defined liberty as freedom constrained by justice. Unfortunately, we have never reached consensus over the meaning of justice.

    Edward J. Dodson, Director
    School of Cooperative Individualism
    www.cooperativeindividualism.o...

  • Hmseil01

    We attended the meetings--now let's have a report that reflects the participants' views. And will someone please explain the odd phone calls going out to registrants who did not attend? Sometimes --in a democracy--you have to show up to be counted. Can those who did not attend vote by proxy? Might their responses skew the results?

  • citizen

    The conservative voice was in fact underrepresented. But one big problem with the event was that there was not enough time to deliberate any one policy proposal. It was like we were running a race. The two 17 year olds at the table were nice kids, but unable to contribute much. They had not seen the materials until they arrived and were more interested in the game of getting the barometer to go up in dollars.

  • AS_moderator

    Thanks for leaving your comment! We tried to present a balanced view and yes, one Saturday is a short period of time to address something as complex as the federal budget. In Chicago, the organizers worked with young people doing simulations and games to inform them about issues in which they previously had not had experience. We appreciate your efforts to help us get this right and we'll do our best to integrate this and other feedback into the final report.

  • Janet L

    Interesting comments, Prof Fung, but I am a little put off by the tone that is reflected not only in what you say but in your title. "The Left Should Learn to Trust Americans" ?? Surely you do not doubt that the term "Americans" includes "the left".

  • Eric Schichl

    i think he was refering to the fact the left played right into the hands of the right by essencially saying the American people are to self absorbed, self interested, and should not have a say as they do not have or undersand all the facts( an outright lie). As a participant and someone who read almost all the material in a day( it is possible) I did find we had a slight left leaning, older better off poplulation bias in detroit as I approached the location we had protesters outside peacefully passing out literature about Social Security. I also found the one government employee was supportive of shrinking government by consolidating medicaid and medicare into one company. I also think IMO that having the social security bonds traded off market creates questions about the viability of such programs.

  • Ted Cloak

    Whether we lefties were right or wrong to be suspicious of a town meeting funded by Pete Peterson, we attended it in droves. Righties are already whining that so-called "conservatives" were underrepresented! If America Speaks was intended to be a typical C of C astroturf job, it failed miserably, as Prof. Fung points out. (For a copy of the actual Preliminary Report, go to http://www.box.net/shared/hhzp18rinm.)

    The question, now, is "What will the organizers of the national town meeting tell the President and Congress?". I can hardly wait to find out.

  • Considering that the majority of this nation considers itself conservative, and according to the poll taken at the conference the majority of the attendees considered themselves otherwise, I'd say the stats back up the whiners. But that's irrelevant.

    I'm a Tea Partier, and even most of us concede that some taxes will need to be raised until the debt is paid down, because we can't possibly cut enough in our existing entitlements and other spending to make up the difference. We just differ on where those cuts ought to be heaviest. What I hope we can agree on is that we don't need reckless spending like we saw with the stimulus bills and open ended bailout funnels like we have with Fannie and Freddie. Once we get beyond some of those issues, then I think rational people could come to agreements that would neither criple our businesses nor allow our less fortunate citizens suffer.

  • Janet L

    Again, I quibble with language. The assumption that we all saw "reckless spending" in the stimulus bills is not likely to realize Mr. Pasek's hope that "we" can agree. I am not impressed with Tea Party rhetoric and would much prefer specifics about what spending is being characterized as "reckless". And some people might question who exactly Mr Pasek sees as "rational people".

  • Mr Fung with all due respect, it is not the American People the left doesn't trust: it's the billionaires with thinly cloaked conservative agendas we don't trust.

  • Ghastly1

    Right! You mean billionaires like George Soros??

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